tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post3581341390902606178..comments2023-12-24T13:03:35.696+00:00Comments on Miserable Old Fart: Dafydd y Dug - Rot in HellAlwyn ap Huwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-41204701037019345962016-02-09T03:24:40.784+00:002016-02-09T03:24:40.784+00:00Despite being a miserable old fart I am too young ...Despite being a miserable old fart I am too young to have known any members of the FWA during the time of the FWA's activity, I did get to know some of them later, in different fields, Glyn and Caio in particular, what struck me about them was how different they were to the Extremist Monsters / Idealistic Idiots portrayed in the press etc. Neither Glyn nor Caio were the oddballs described in Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-83686358924230816292015-12-15T15:26:30.491+00:002015-12-15T15:26:30.491+00:00I MADE AN UNJUST COMMENT EARLIER TODAY AGAINST &#...I MADE AN UNJUST COMMENT EARLIER TODAY AGAINST 'MISARABLE OLD FART' WHO ON HIS BLOG INFORMED OF HE BEING 'RAPED/BUGGERED' BY DAFYDD BURNS aka 'DAFYDD y DUG' aka 'THE DUKE'. MOST UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCE AND I CAN SEE WHY 'MOB' DID NOT ATTEND HIS FUNERAL, I DID NOT EITHER BUT FOR POLITICAL REASONS AND THE FACT THAT I THOUGHT HIS PATRIOTISM HAD BECOME DROWNED Gethin Gruffyddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-36838181897738732872015-09-22T20:50:30.436+01:002015-09-22T20:50:30.436+01:00It's harrowing to see the glowing obituaries o...It's harrowing to see the glowing obituaries of Dafydd y Dug. and especially to think that they're probably not insincere. People like this often have immense charm and can come across as big personalities. Were there two sides to him or, as I would suspect is more likely, was the public image just an act? If the former, it's very sad, but in the latter case, it's chilling.<br /><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-40117362593318575922015-09-15T10:14:37.262+01:002015-09-15T10:14:37.262+01:00I'm inclined to believe your story. I met Dafy...I'm inclined to believe your story. I met Dafydd Burns when I was working in a small hotel in Harlech, just across the road from Coleg Harlech in 1970 if my memory serves me right. I quite liked the man, who I found to be both interesting and passionate about his politics. However, I was warned several times by student friends to be careful and keep a distance from the man. I couldn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-72817184791200866992015-03-24T13:52:00.478+00:002015-03-24T13:52:00.478+00:00I met Burns in Clwb Ifor Bach in 1986 - I only met...I met Burns in Clwb Ifor Bach in 1986 - I only met him once. There was a group of us. Burns was boasting - he said about young fresh students - "I fin@*ger them and f@ck" I wanted to deck him but he I was dragged off by the bouncers. Nasty piece of work Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-19219911245172936252015-03-22T22:54:03.991+00:002015-03-22T22:54:03.991+00:00I don't suppose this will be any comfort to yo... I don't suppose this will be any comfort to you or anyone else, but after reading your posts, I asked my former boyfriend, Dafydd ap Geler Thomas if he had ever met Dafydd y Dug and what he thought of him without indicating that I'd heard or read anything negative about him. My Dafydd said,''He was a total arsehole and he stole my hat!'' This is an incredibly trivial Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-37732626815588343872015-02-06T05:35:28.258+00:002015-02-06T05:35:28.258+00:00Dioch DafyddDioch DafyddAlwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-63294038788723649462015-02-06T05:34:47.070+00:002015-02-06T05:34:47.070+00:00No! A completely different person Elwyn Jones of F...No! A completely different person Elwyn Jones of Ffestiniog and Deganwy 1946-2003:<br /> http://news.bbc.co.uk/welsh/hi/newsid_2970000/newsid_2973400/2973473.stmAlwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-39891691674904043432014-11-17T22:42:36.446+00:002014-11-17T22:42:36.446+00:00Dafydd y Dug whom I encountered as a student whils...Dafydd y Dug whom I encountered as a student whilst studying at Coleg Harlech during the academic year 1971-72 was certainly an unsavoury characte. He was a low lifer who was overly fond of ale and sexual encounters with young men. He once tried to get me to lie on his behalf at Dolgellau Crown Court where he was before the bench for having viciously attacked a much younger man on the level Dafydd Llewelunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998447511020060818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-67352434445110420912014-10-28T02:40:31.613+00:002014-10-28T02:40:31.613+00:00Alwyn, I hope you don't mind my asking this qu...Alwyn, I hope you don't mind my asking this question. I am not being facetious. I'm just feeling a bit confused. Having re-read some of your comments on others' contributions, do you really mean that Elwyn Jones -Elwyn Jones of Llanelli who was at the Nuremberg Trials and wrote a book on Myra Hindley - was also raped by a nationalist? And did you mean that Dafydd y Dug was the guilty Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-88060709051855093412014-10-26T20:20:59.131+00:002014-10-26T20:20:59.131+00:00This is one of the most shocking things I've e...This is one of the most shocking things I've ever read! If the above comment is accurate, it shows that every abuser was a victim once. But why were his real self and his prison record not more widely known? I have to agree with the comment that it's unlikely to be because he was a nationalist, that the police wouldn't take complaints against him seriously. Probably, there was just a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-11334294602827889322014-09-29T07:14:48.339+01:002014-09-29T07:14:48.339+01:00Diolch Bill your support is appreciated Diolch Bill your support is appreciated Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-21720117049668700582014-09-29T07:13:15.645+01:002014-09-29T07:13:15.645+01:00Thanks GailThanks GailAlwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-78334427673056535582014-09-26T22:44:24.129+01:002014-09-26T22:44:24.129+01:00I am not aware of much praise awarded to Dafydd y ...I am not aware of much praise awarded to Dafydd y Dug during his lifetime. <br />He spent much of his pre-graduate life behind walls and in cages for the protection of society, and much of his later life doped in self-administered sedation. <br /><br />He was sexually abused from an early age and raped in Borstal where he was sent at the age of 10. <br />In 1972 he was jailed for 4 years for Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05425415313184032666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-52820655069537942642014-09-26T08:39:04.785+01:002014-09-26T08:39:04.785+01:00Thank you for your openness and honesty in this re...Thank you for your openness and honesty in this revelation. You deserve to be praised for tackling two difficult subjects - firstly what happened to you and secondly the truth about an over-praised man.Bill Chapmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-70544227988146298562014-09-25T21:43:22.382+01:002014-09-25T21:43:22.382+01:00Dear Alwyn,
I am totally appalled to read of your ...Dear Alwyn,<br />I am totally appalled to read of your shocking experience as a young man. And you are right, pedants are not politically minded when it comes to their perversions.<br /><br />It is very brave of you to go public about this vile man whoever he was.<br />Kind Regards, GailGail Hallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-20211272362714828192014-09-25T05:31:27.291+01:002014-09-25T05:31:27.291+01:00Since I started this blog in 2007 I have never del...Since I started this blog in 2007 I have never deleted a comment that wasn't spam. But I have just deleted some Anonymous comments from this thread. This was a bloody difficult issue to share. I thought long and hard about writing it. Having written it I received a number of messages from nationalist friends asking me to delete it; I closed the blog for 24 hours in order to consider those Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-18485677550160008182014-09-25T04:52:03.700+01:002014-09-25T04:52:03.700+01:00Burn's criminality was not "Welsh Nationa...Burn's criminality was not "Welsh Nationalist" it was the sexual exploitation and the rape of a minor, I don't think that "political persuasion" should be part of the discussion. A pederast is a pederast and should be treated with the same condemnation if he is socialist, liberal, conservative, unionist or nationalist. Elwyn Jones rejected the national cause having Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-65664030497561031462014-09-24T22:08:56.419+01:002014-09-24T22:08:56.419+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-15570311922057061812014-09-24T10:08:38.503+01:002014-09-24T10:08:38.503+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-60994370211867834402014-09-24T06:58:48.124+01:002014-09-24T06:58:48.124+01:00And, by the way, I do know a bit about Police Pers...And, by the way, I do know a bit about Police Persecution of Nationalist at that time, I was arrested on Palm Sunday 1980!Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-71767357018035307392014-09-24T06:48:08.881+01:002014-09-24T06:48:08.881+01:00I put my name to the accusation, put your name to ...I put my name to the accusation, put your name to your defence of Burns, if you are so certain of his innocence. Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-70434766829326546592014-09-22T16:51:01.901+01:002014-09-22T16:51:01.901+01:00I do hope that the police will follow up on this c...I do hope that the police will follow up on this crime. If not, I will bring it to the attention of your police commissioner.<br /><br />Such criminal acts were a lot more common than generally reported. And, yes, the police often acted woefully and sometimes quite unlawfully.<br /><br />The courage you have shown today will, hopefully, help countless others come to terms with some of the awful Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-31306937442941459612014-09-22T16:34:31.548+01:002014-09-22T16:34:31.548+01:00Why would anyone lie about something like that? It...Why would anyone lie about something like that? It takes a lot of courage for a man to admit he's been raped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-8046309962308931062014-09-22T09:27:35.911+01:002014-09-22T09:27:35.911+01:00" .....by nobody believing a word against him..." .....by nobody believing a word against him because he was a nationalist "<br /><br />Seems an unlikely scenario. Police persecution of nationalists in Wales, using the slightest excuse, was blatantly obvious at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com