tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post4284767822720789046..comments2023-12-24T13:03:35.696+00:00Comments on Miserable Old Fart: I Want a ReferendumAlwyn ap Huwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-57887821640157498312007-09-09T02:49:00.000+01:002007-09-09T02:49:00.000+01:00I'm not too sure that I understand what your sayin...I'm not too sure that I understand what your saying here. Obviously if the change to the British Constitution is external, from the EU, NATO etcetera then that could trigger an automatic referendum.<BR/><BR/>But when the matter is internal, such as giving more powers to the nations, then there is no automatic power, because the bill that needs a referendum will be delayed until it is expedient nationalistviewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745941880748641877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-5720758835236703652007-09-08T18:14:00.000+01:002007-09-08T18:14:00.000+01:00Sorry to butt in, isn't it a matter of issues that...Sorry to butt in, isn't it a matter of issues that decide the overall rules for us as a political community that we ourselves should decide? We have a growing discussion of this in OurKingdom with OpenEurope and John Palmer arguing the toss, especially interesting is the post from Bill Emmott, who was a great editor of the Economist, for a principled referendum and for Europe.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08591363718761764503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-37866916216135346862007-09-08T17:54:00.000+01:002007-09-08T17:54:00.000+01:00"The government is far too powerful and they shoul..."The government is far too powerful and they should be legislating far less than they do now."<BR/><BR/>Its not our government which overlegislates. Its the EU! Over 80% of all our laws originated in Brussels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-31713721077414081692007-09-08T16:47:00.000+01:002007-09-08T16:47:00.000+01:00You are right. I believe that it is right that we ...You are right. I believe that it is right that we are allowed citizens initiatives like they have in Switzerland.<BR/><BR/>The government is far too powerful and they should be legislating far less than they do now.youdontknowmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671696083535500783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-66840600669175804132007-09-08T09:15:00.000+01:002007-09-08T09:15:00.000+01:00At some point there has to be an international deb...At some point there has to be an international debate, i.e. a debate among the nations of Britain on the way forward for the constitution.<BR/>The present set-up, with all its anomalies and contradictions, is not tenable.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-62773815964742141212007-09-08T07:06:00.000+01:002007-09-08T07:06:00.000+01:00"It appears to me that we have two choices, either..."It appears to me that we have two choices, either we trust our elected representatives to legislate as they see fit without the need for further referendums - on any subject - ever, or we have a law that says that these changes must be decided by referendum whether it is convenient to our elected representatives to hold a referendum or not."<BR/><BR/>So ask yourself.. do YOU trust your elected Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com