tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post8356117713044024126..comments2023-12-24T13:03:35.696+00:00Comments on Miserable Old Fart: Beleving in ScienceAlwyn ap Huwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-56212300201141842002008-09-26T18:54:00.000+01:002008-09-26T18:54:00.000+01:00"Anonymous, your response is a classical example o..."Anonymous, your response is a classical example of a straw man argument. You say that, as a person of religious conviction, that I must <BR/><BR/>believe what you believe I believe!"<BR/><BR/>No I didn't. I didn't say you personally believed what I attributed to religionists. Indeed, I don't know what your religious beliefs are, or <BR/><BR/>lack of them. I was speaking generally.<BR/><BR/>"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-30410792781535200422008-09-24T02:44:00.000+01:002008-09-24T02:44:00.000+01:00Anonymous, your response is a classical example of...Anonymous, your response is a classical example of a <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man" REL="nofollow">straw man</A> argument.<BR/><BR/>You say that, as a person of religious conviction, that I must believe what you believe I believe!<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately for your argument I don't.<BR/><BR/>Doubly unfortunately for your argument is that your argument isn't based on fact but on Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-34213025524637503852008-09-23T21:29:00.000+01:002008-09-23T21:29:00.000+01:00I'm no Christian but I agree with you on this one....I'm no Christian but I agree with you on this one.RobWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255978974948870928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-81675285158582363482008-09-23T21:26:00.000+01:002008-09-23T21:26:00.000+01:00The closed self-authorising self-referential syste...The closed self-authorising self-referential system of religion v. the open-ended project to find out, according to measurable external comparators, testable, verifiable facts?<BR/><BR/>Of course, you're right - so much of what passes for science these days we are asked to take on faith. Often according to who's paying the piper. The Selwyn Gummer stunt did so much to damage this public faith, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-11855166718947663232008-09-23T19:46:00.000+01:002008-09-23T19:46:00.000+01:00Your other posts are usually spot-on Alwyn but thi...Your other posts are usually spot-on Alwyn but this post is absolute nonense. I can't believe you're trying to argue that faith in religion is the same thing as 'faith' in science. The 'believer' in science can easily test his/her theories and ideas in the real world, a religionist can't. A religionist says that a holy book is the word of God, and that his word is final. Whatever man has to say Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-80882813155459293032008-09-21T16:49:00.000+01:002008-09-21T16:49:00.000+01:00You are no man's "nutter" Alwyn ap Huw.I would rem...You are no man's "nutter" Alwyn ap Huw.<BR/><BR/>I would remind those that might utter those words, of what John Stuart Mill wrote .....<BR/><BR/>"We can never be sure that a silenced opinion does not contain some element of the truth".<BR/><BR/>So lets not be silent out there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037177825712467778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-7266072165467985972008-09-21T16:26:00.000+01:002008-09-21T16:26:00.000+01:00I would suspect that the vast majority of people a...I would suspect that the vast majority of people are in exactly the same position as me, they believe what scientists say, they have faith in scientific proof but they have very little understanding of science.<BR/><BR/>I tend to be the opposite.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.com