tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post2439104980582927428..comments2023-12-24T13:03:35.696+00:00Comments on Miserable Old Fart: Peter Hain – Wales' Voster?Alwyn ap Huwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-63118996420503125592012-06-28T05:32:53.494+01:002012-06-28T05:32:53.494+01:00The man you're thinking of is Gwyn Griffiths f...The man you're thinking of is Gwyn Griffiths from Towyn, who now works for the Labour Party in Cardiff BayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-79020547502401681432012-06-25T15:20:15.251+01:002012-06-25T15:20:15.251+01:00Tribal voting is a curse in Wales. The voters of N...Tribal voting is a curse in Wales. The voters of Neath and Port Talbot are obviously not as discerning as those of Putney who twice rejected Peter Hain at the ballot box. Hain got ahead because he was an ambitious political opportunist. His fearless fight against apartheid was waged from the comfort and safety of Britain. No Robben Island for our hero.Daniel T Thomashttp://cambriandissenters.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-13573144220475322592012-04-28T11:47:56.782+01:002012-04-28T11:47:56.782+01:00Hain typifies everything that is wrong with Wales....Hain typifies everything that is wrong with Wales. Wolves dressed as sheep masquerading as our friends when in truth they are the real enemies of every man, woman and child in Wales.<br /><br />Every Labour politician takes their orders from UK Labour, 74% of their MPs represent English constituencies. Even if they wanted to stand up for Wales it would be political suicide for them. They have Welsh not Britishhttp://www.welshnotbritish.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-52463167124824205712012-04-23T06:59:17.313+01:002012-04-23T06:59:17.313+01:00Hain is a crude and tribal politician. Any party o...Hain is a crude and tribal politician. Any party other than Labour is, in his mind, self evidently bad. People get turned off by politicians like that. He's out of touch with the way things are going in this country. A bit of humility would be a good idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-21447342989384616202012-04-22T17:15:57.080+01:002012-04-22T17:15:57.080+01:00Hain's claim is by no means unique to him with...Hain's claim is by no means unique to him within Labour in Wales, whether Old or New. Their narrative (I do hate that term) in Wales has been to divide Wales politically into "Labour" and "not Labour". It's mainly for campagining convenince since it's easier not to have to deal with the nuances of different opponents and to deal with others as "non-Labour&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-45056615076403621452012-04-22T03:13:56.216+01:002012-04-22T03:13:56.216+01:00Might be, I honestly don't remember his surnam...Might be, I honestly don't remember his surname. One of us was chair and one of us was secretary, but I can't remember which one of us was which – it was a very long time ago. I suspect that I see Gwyn in the aisles of Tesco, Llandudno Junction, every now and again, and we do that embarrassing nod that means <i>I think that I know who you are but I'm not sure enough to ask</i> thing.Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-35942345802628562832012-04-21T21:52:59.033+01:002012-04-21T21:52:59.033+01:00Gwynn Lloyd-Jones from Prestatyn?Gwynn Lloyd-Jones from Prestatyn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-716110727690525532012-04-21T16:47:20.620+01:002012-04-21T16:47:20.620+01:00A lad called Gwyn something, I can't remember ...A lad called Gwyn something, I can't remember his surname; I believe that he is a solicitor somewhere on north Wales coast now. Although it might be hard to believe today, in the 1970's the Liberal party was fairly strong in Merioneth and was probably seen by the sitting Labour MP as a bigger threat than Plaid at the time.Alwyn ap Huwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194724336424525283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8120478390983403863.post-2818072305585609202012-04-21T09:09:36.886+01:002012-04-21T09:09:36.886+01:00Leading member of the Merionethshire Young Liberal...Leading member of the Merionethshire Young Liberals, eh? Who was the other one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com