38. At 05:34am on 13 Feb 2009, Bostoniwr wrote:
There are some interesting point of view concerning True Wales on Alwyn ap Huw's blogspot blog, "Miserable Old Fart". He begins with this sentence:
"There is a sweet irony in the fact that a movement calling itself True Wales should launch its campaign by making a string of untruthful claims!"
plus ca change! Sounds familiar to anybody who's been exposed to their members posts on this blog.
The post that bostoniwr refers to can be found Here
39. At 06:09am on 13 Feb 2009, TheStonemason wrote:
"Alwyn ap Huw" is unlikely to write anything other than he has in your quote, he with others have established counter argument to the "No" position, he has been vociferous in his support for additional powers. Some even created a very similar web site to confuse, a very typical Nationalist technique when argument is weak.
Yet he has recently fallen out of love with Plaid Cymru.
You could be he, in different clothes.
I am disappointed with the Stonemason's contribution. Although we have differences of opinion about our views on the best constitutional settlement for Wales I hope that I have always opposed his opinions with courtesy and respect and with my own name displayed in big bold letters. I never make anonymous comments. I don't see the point of expressing an opinion without making it clear that it is my opinion.
Incidentally I haven't particularly fallen out with Plaid Cymru. I stopped being a member of Plaid Cymru some 10 years or so ago (not recently). That was more to do with falling out with the idea of membership of any party and the need to toe the party line that membership involves. I disagree with Plaid's socialism and its commitment to the EU; I don't think that the party shows its Nationalist credentials as much as it should do. Not being a member allows me to say so. But as far as any allegiance goes I will vote for Plaid and support Plaid in every election, as the best of a bunch of parties who's lines I will not toe!
41. At 08:42am on 13 Feb 2009, mapexx wrote:
What is significant is, not that True Wales is as charged, but that Alwyn ap Huw, does not expand on his charge that True Wales has published lies.
Maybe Bostonian,otherwise known as BOSSY BOOTS, could do it for him, and lay out on this blog, just what lies True Wales has supposedly told.
I would think that if any lies have been told it is by....
a: Alwyn ap Huw.
b: Plaid Cymru.
c: The Cardiff Bay mob, and
d: quite a few who frequent these blogs with their nationalist agenda's.
This is another one of True Wales' Big Lies. The post in question expands in detail on five specific lies that True Wales told in their initial outing.
However to give a more up to date example of True wales lying I refer Mapexx to True Wales own blogsite, where it states that one of its aims is that any application to draw down Legislative Competence Orders from the United Kingdom Government should reflect the wishes of the majority of the Welsh people where as True Wales actually opposes any drawing down of policies as a matter of principal.